I'll stop kissing his ass now © EC about MB
Here is TV Guide chat with Michael Biehn and Eric Close about Mag7, their work together and huge amount of interesting things. This is a crazy chat, some answers of the boys are VERY thoughtful.
The Magnificent Seven's Michael Biehn and Eric Close chat January 7, 1999OMG OMG OMG, это не то что ебануться – это ебануться заебись, у меня даже рука не поднимается цензурные звездочки поставить, потому что ЭТО и цензура несовместимы.
Вчера лазила по старым сайтам и наткнулась на ссылку 1999 года. Которая, конечно, уже нерабочая. Сегодня с утра со свежими силами и здравой головой открыла эту ссылку через "машину времени" – и между прочим, открыла с трудом, на самом лимите действия "машины", похоже, эта статья была удалена очень быстро после публикации. Но лучше бы я не открывала. Ей-богу, не читайте это, я предупредила.
Майкл Бин и Эрик Клоуз отвечают на вопросы по Интернету. Линка вверху ведет на рабочую страничку интервью – оно реально большое, а здесь краткая выдержка с комментариями (Боже помоги мне).
MB & EC chat + commentsAquila_KLM: What historical research have the two of you done in order to explore aspects of your characters' lives (such as bounty hunting, ranching in the 1800s, Native Americans, frontier prostitution, etc)?
Biehn: Well I researched the prostitution but that is all the research that I did. It wasn't the 1880s though.
Close: All the actors and writers were real conscious about trying to keep dialogue and scenarios authentic. Michael was really good about that. There were certain times a character would say something, and Michael would be real careful to make sure that any facts were true. That we were authentic, quoting certain types of laws that existed back then. As far as dialogue went, we all picked up a book on cowboy slang. We would, instead of saying not, or isn't, we would say ain't or reckon. Little things like that. Michael's character said one time to Vin, "You better be careful or you'll be deader than a beaver-skin hat," or something like that. I guess what I'm trying to say is —
Biehn: NO, we haven't done any research.
Close: I think we all try to look into different things. My character, Vin Tanner, we find out that he likes poetry, and I looked into that. A couple of actors wrote some poems for the character. Dale Midkiff, who plays Buck, wrote a poem for the character Vin. There was some research, yeah.
Я даже не знаю, что я здесь собираюсь прокомментировать и что тут вообще можно добавить.
ChiraMc: How much of your own stunts do you do?
Biehn: None. We do running, jumping, fighting, riding. But anything that is real stunt — windows falling, etc., none of us do.
Close: But we do get to do pretty much ninety percent of our riding, unless it's something pretty hairy, like with explosions nearby, or down a hill.
Biehn: Actually, Andy, who plays J.D., does almost all of his own horse stunts.
Слава Богу, по склону холма катился манекен, а не Клоуз.
Mag7fanWin: Dear Michael, do you prefer making movies or being a part of a TV series like Mag Seven? Which is more challenging, more rewarding?
Biehn: Doing Mag. 7. I am much more involved in the filmmaking experience on Mag Seven. I'm much more involved in story elements, casting decisions, the writing of the show, the blocking of the scenes. And controlling the egos of my costars.
Close: Except mine, of course. It's too big to control!
Biehn: I am like a mini-producer, they can't keep me down. I am not, but I think I am. No one listens to me. These are just opinions I have. They can't stop me from doing it.
Close: I was going to echo what Michael said, in that Michael is not only the leader of the Seven, but right from the get-go, Michael has taken that leadership position and been the voice for the seven of us. And Michael is one of the more selfless actors that I've met when it comes to the show, because he doesn't go to the writers or producers with only concerns about his character. He goes and he approaches the producers with concerns regarding every one of us, and the show itself, guest stars, across the boards. From my understanding, that's a rarity coming from someone with Michael's status. I'll stop kissing his ass now and let you guys continue.
Они начали чат слегка скованно, но к середине явно расслабились и Эрика явно понесло. Как Вина с холма после взрыва. Для человека с большим эго такие дифирамбы – это неприлично! Последняя фраза – это ноу комментс. Но не удивлена, что Бин действовал в жизни, как Крис в сериале – аксиома, что они не играли, а жили.
А вот здесь ахтунг. Это ответ на вопрос, который перманентно мучил меня – как они относятся к фикам. И Боже мой, лучше бы они промолчали. Эрик лучше бы промолчал. Они крышесносительная пара: Бин отделывается короткими язвителньыми фразами, точно как Крис, а Клоуз – Клоузу нужно кляп в рот вставить и руки связать.
Lanette_VV: There are many websites and a lot of fan fiction devoted to Mag Seven on the Internet. Have either of you visited the sites and/or read the fanfic?
Biehn: I don't have a computer. I don't know anything about that. I don't even know what a website is.
Close: I have a comment about that.
Biehn: We are anxiously waiting.
Close: What's the question again? Yes, I have chatted online a little bit, or just sent a message from John Watson's computer last year, I believe. And actually, the other thing was, someone downloaded, if I'm correct, the fan fiction, where they make up stories for our characters. And I have to say that a lot of young people are into the show and get on the Internet and it's hard to sort of police what's on there, and I happened to see some pornographic storylines.
Biehn: Yeah, baby!
Close: And me personally I was a bit disappointed in how graphic the stuff was. If it's a place where it is restricted in terms of who can see it, that's one thing. But I would just encourage our fans to try and encourage the people that write this stuff to clean it up a little bit because a lot of our fans are young viewers. And young surfers.
Biehn: Very nice!
Т.е. я это понимаю так: Эрик ЧИТАЛ. Чисто случайно сам не знает как наткнулся – но прекрасно в курсе. Ладно. Он ЧИТАЛ, и ЧИТАЛ слэш (потому что в конце 90-х pornographic storylines были только слэшевые). И его покоробило только то, что pornographic storylines лежат в свободном доступе, и их могут увидеть дети. НО, БЛЯ, ЕГО НЕ ПОКОРОБИЛО, ЧТО НАПИСАНО В ТЕХ ФИКАХ?!! В тех фиках его и сидящего рядом человека склоняют всеми способами – и он не высказывает ни малейшего недовольства по поводу этого! И Бин, бля: "Yeah, baby!" Они оба больные на голову? И сама манера их общения, этот юморок и подколы... весело им!
dlt0423: Eric, are we going to find out about Vin's dad in the new season?
Biehn: Maybe.
Close: I hope so. That's a storyline that I would like to see. But I don't know yet.
Biehn: We want to know from people online who'd make a good father for Vin, re casting choices. Someone who would work in TV, not a movie star.
Однако, значит идея с отцом Вина активно рассматривалась, а не исчезла после написания первых шести серий вместе с прочими первоначальными идеями. Жаль, что она не реализовалась. И судя по этим словам, третий сезон М7 вполне реально планировался. Aw hell.
myscribe: Which episode do you think is the best so far?
Close: I am going to say an episode called "Penance." Look-wise it was very cool. I haven't seen them all. And I'm also going to take a chance and say an episode called "Obsession" that I've seen a little bit of and I think is going to be really good too.
Biehn: My favorite episode is "Vendetta." I would say that one of the things that we are proud of is that we are attracting very interesting guest stars. One is Tyne Daly, who has done a wonderful job. She was in "Vendetta." Brad Douriff was great. He is a great actor. And Peter Firth, who did Equus. Anthony Hopkins. Kay Lenz and Robert Vaughn.
Ну Эрик и ляпнул – "Obsession"! Но не удивлена, что ему понравилась "Penance" – Вин там в лучшем виде (и с задатками федерального агента, хотя он еще понятия не имеет, что его ждет в будущем), и Бин очень прав с "Vendetta".
LadyChris77: Do you two think that you would work on a project together outside of The Magnificent Seven?
Biehn: We would like to. Why, do you have a sсript? Of course, we would love to.
Close: I would absolutely jump at the chance. To spit on Michael. We were doing the pilot in Arizona. And there is a scene where we are all handcuffed. And Michael is trying to pull his hand out of the handcuff. And Vin was chewing tobacco and Michael said to me, lean over and spit tobacco juice on my hand when the camera is on me so it looks like my hand is lubricated, to pull my hand out of the handcuff. And I thought that was really cool, that Michael was willing to do that, because it kind of gave a rawness and a reality to the show. Plus, I just like spitting on Michael.
Это второй раз заставило меня улечься под стол. И мне уже не хочется оттуда вылезать. Бог с ними, что они не против бы работать вместе дальше – это нормально в сплоченном коллективе, а никто не усомнится, что "Семерка" такой была. Но история про плевок… Эрик, зачем ты это рассказал… "And I thought that was really cool that Michael was willing to do that …" О бля да, это было круто, но можно подобрать и другое слово. Не, вот правда, а нахрена и как это вообще Бин попросил его? А тому понравилось, угу.
Heartart2: Would you like to see more women in the shows?
Biehn: I would.
Close: Yes. But they'd need to be good!
А чем Эрику те что есть не нравятся? Кроме Эллы там вроде все женские персонажи положительные.
gracie_02: What's the weirdest experience you've ever had with a fan?
Biehn: I had a weird situation were someone used my name to extort money from a woman. He took her for 60 or 80 thousand dollars. He is in prison now. It was on Sally. She thought she was going to marry me and sent money to pay debt I didn't have.
Close: I have used Michael's name to extort money, too.
Biehn: It was really weird.
Я дико извиняюсь, но шутка Эрика вызывает необходимость спросить: "А он обещал тебе жениться?"
Julyred: Michael, what is the reason for wearing black all the time?
Biehn: It matches my personality.
Close: Because I took brown.
Biehn: Matches my mood when I show up on the set in the morning.
Приколисты хреновы.
Tina_SaulsGA: Vin, can you really play the harmonica?
Biehn: You should hear him play. Boy you should hear him play!!
Close: Let me clear something up with that. Vin does not play the harmonica. Never did, never will.
Biehn: (Laughs)
Close: The reason he carries a harmonica is that he likes to blow air through it, it's a form of meditation for him. That's it.
Biehn: Chris is thinking of picking up the electric guitar next season.
Close: However, I can understand why someone might assume he could play the harmonica, because some brilliant person in the sound department dubbed in some harmonica music that I wasn't playing.
Biehn: You gotta admit, Eric, that when you have the harmonica in your hand an you are blowing into it, it looks like you're playing it.
А вот теперь Бина понесло. Кстати, фаны активно обсуждают вопрос, умеет ли Вин играть и нахрена ему вообще инструмент, то Эрик расставил точки над і.
CajinSweetHeart: What are your future projects?
Biehn: I've got a movie coming out than John Landis directed. It is a comedy with Dan Aykroyd. Billy Zane. Nastasha Kinski. And it is called Susan's Plan. It should be out this spring. It is a comedy and everyone can see how hysterical I am.
Close: I did an independent film called The Sky Is Falling. A dark comedy. And I don't know when it'll be out. I think they are making the rounds in the festival scene. That's about it for me.
О, так The Sky Is Falling было снято еще в 1998? Параллельно со вторым сезоном М7? А в эфир оно пошло аж в 2001. Неудивительно, что Эрик там выглядит точно как Вин. UPD: вспомнила про это интервью, перечитала его и - Боже мой, лучше бы я этого не делала! Даже зная, что я там найду, я все равно пережила шок и ахуй. Они невероятны. Они до неприличия - именно до неприличия - наслаждаются собой и своими ролями. И ладно я, больная на всю голову дама, в мозгах которой вселенная М7 видится только под одним углом, фигею - так нет же, когда я на фб запостила эту ссылку, здравые и трезвые люди с незамыленным взором высказали мнение в стиле "а шо это вообще между ними там было?"
Кстати, когда Эрик говорит о том, что хотел сыграть ковбоя - сериал, после которого бралось то интервью, это "Dark Skies". Я была права, когда писала в одном из своих постов, что Эрику ковбои куда интересней за инопланетян.
P.S. Спасибо Van, в сети сохранились и другие интервью с кастом Mag7:
Buck & JD
dichotomystudios.com/mag7/chatb.htm Должна сказать, что актер-Бак звучит как Бак, а вот актер-Джей-Ди… вот он как человек далековат от своей роли. И хотя на экране они друзья-неразлейвода и дружны в жизни, им далеко до химии Майкла и Эрика. Пара "Buck's" цитат:
Midkiff: And it's nice of Michael to say that. Michael is like a woman on a horse; he's the worst by far!
О поэме Вина “A Hero’s Heart”, которую он написал:Midkiff: No. That's simply for me. Of course, I cleared it with Eric to make sure that he could say the words, and that they felt right for his character.
Josiah & Nathan
dichotomystudios.com/mag7/chatc.htm Оп-па, так это Джозайя должен был умереть в пилоте, а вместо него появиться Дарах О’Молли! Perlman: I should tell you I was hired to die in the pilot. But when they got a load of my performance they just wounded me badly and let me live. It had nothing to do with my performance actually, they just saw a chemistry in the seven characters, they saw it gel, and they asked me if I would stay on. And I was happy to oblige.
Хм, я думала, что 80-е годы…Worthy: The show takes places in approximately 1870, 1872…
Ezra & Mary
dichotomystudios.com/mag7/chatd.htm